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[sticky post] Before You Post About Grad Schools...

Before making a "Will I get in?" post about graduate schools, please do the following:

1.  Check out this entry found here.
2.  Read past entries for ideas - Graduate School tag is a good starting place.
3.  Check the program website for the school you are applying to, many times they have information about average GPA/GRE scores, employment rate post grad, etc.

The reason we're asking this of you is because we tend to get a huge influx of graduate school posts around this time of year and many of your questions have been answered before.  If you truly cannot find your answer, feel free to post your graduate school question. =)

NYC SLP's

Hi,

I am hoping I can get some information from those in the field.

I am thinking about going back to school to become a SLP. In college I considered this career path but since my school didn’t offer the program I did not want to switch schools and lose my scholarship. I have my BA in Psychology and my M.S. Ed. in School Counseling.

I live in NYC and work for the Department of Education as a paraprofessional. I would like to get my NY TSSLD license as I enjoy working with children and would like to stay in the school setting.

I have a few questions:
1.) Has anyone received the UFT/Western Kentucky scholarship? How competitive is it? Is the distance learning program manageable, for someone who will be working full time? I have experience with online classes, but they have often been time consuming and tedious rather than difficult.

2.) A question for new SLP grads….In the NYC DOE is it difficult to find a position as a speech teacher? Perhaps because I have found it nearly impossible to find a job as a school counselor I am reluctant to go back to school for 2+ years and then not be able to get a job. I’ve heard Speech is a shortage area but what have your job search experiences been like?

3.) I know the DOE offers a program in the shortage area of bilingual school psychology, where you go to school and work as a “school psychologist in-training”. Is there a similar program for speech?

I apologize for the many questions and thank you to those who have read my long entry!

Advice to Post-BA students (specifically in NY area)

First, I just want to apologize I am writing this very, very quickly so there will be many spelling errors.

It was so difficult for me as a Post-BA student to find the info I needed so I am hoping this post will help someone.  I am, now, applying to graduate schools...

CUNY schools
If you're like me and want to take your Post-BA classes in a cheaper school, definitely head out to a CUNY.  Keep in mind, Lehman is more open to letting you take the classes.  Queens, you have first priority, but have to take a LOT of classes.  Brooklyn, you are last on their list (undergraduates are first, then e-permit, then you :))

If you go to a CUNY school, then this website was the most helpful in terms of seeing how they correlate with the same classess at other cuny's: (scroll down)
http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/comsc/courses/prerequisite-courses

Letters of recommendation
Make sure you get to know at least 2 professors, preferable 3 professors really well so they can write you a letter of recommendation.  Remember, just b/c on the website, it says you should send 2, doesn't mean you have to.  I contacted the graduate head of every single school and some of them allowed more than what is allowed on the website.  If you want a better chance of gaining admittance, give in what they say--not the website.
The info I found:
Queens required 3 period.  They said if the 4th one would make that much of a difference then you can send in 1 more
Lehman allowed as many as you wanted (I would give max 4, though)
Brooklyn: 3
Adelphi allowed 3-4
Hofstra 3
St Johns: 3
LIU Brooklyn: 3
LU post: 3
For the schools that required 3, 2 of those 3 SHOULD be from speech professors.  That's why it is so important you find 2 who can write them.  Believe me when I tell you I know a girl who asked a professor, and the professor said "no!" :/
Make sure you give your professor plenty of time.  I would say 2-3 months before your applications are due.  Even sometimes, that isn't enough.  Make sure you ask reliable professors.  Now, I have heard, that if a professor doesn't send it in on time, some schools do not care and will give you leeway b/c they understand it is not your fault.  I'd say, just pick a professor who is reliable.

More classes that you need, regardless of the pre requisites for other grad schools
It's also important to look at the ASHA certification, b/c they are changing it for those graduating from grad school in 2014 and beyond! (scroll down, it will be a chart)
http://www.asha.org/Certification/2014-Certification-Standards-for-SLP/
It is mandatory to take a specific statistics class, as well as a chemistry or physics!

If you do not finish all of this before applying, not to worry...most schools will allow you to have 6 credits incomplete before applying.  Meaning, if you get accepted, just take those credits in the summer.  Regardless of what schools require you to take, make sure that those asha requirements are fulfilled so that you can get ASHA certified when the time comes.

GRE
Make sure to start studying for the GRE's and make sure you finish them at least 2-3 months before sending out your applications.  I'd shoot for earlier if possible.  Verbal is most important to speech pathology schools, so make sure you do well. 
Information about ETS: they screw up a lot!
My advice: make sure you send out all the electronic applications and THEN send out your GRE scores.  This can be tricky b/c you want your gre scores to get there on time, which is why I say to apply early to meet all the deadlines.
If a school have not recieved the gre scores you sent out, there is something called a "batch" or "cycle" number.  Apparently, from this number, the grad school can track the gre (this number did NOT help 1 of the grad schools I applied to locate the information). 
I had a huge problem with ETS and I was very, very organized.  They will resend the scores for free every 14 days so just make sure to call schools and ask if they have recieved them.  ETS number: (866) 473-4373 ext 0

Organizing your info
Literally.  Take a piece of paper and write out, for example, if you are applying to LIU Post:
LIU Post - Phone number
Prof ____ (letter of recc 1)
Prof ____
Prof ____
Transcript 1
Transcript 2, etc.
GRE
Check/application fee
Call the school and put a check mark next to everything they recieved.  You want to keep on calling them to make sure they recieve them on time.

Sending the information
Transcripts: from the school I got my Bachelors from, I made sure to pick up 10 or so transcripts (always get more than the number of schools you are applying to).  Send them out YOURSELF in a manilla envelope with your application fee, personal statement, letters of recc, and anything else the school may need.  Include a piece of paper at the beginning of all your information stating your name, birth date+year, Social security number/application code.  RETURN RECEIPT this envelope.  This way, if a school loses it, you have proof that it was recieved and can tell them exactly when and what time, etc (I did have to personally go down to some schools, but for the most case, I was lucky that most schools received everything (besides my gre's)).  If you want to send it 1 day shipping, that is always an option--I think it was about $13

Info about the schools I applied to:
Phone Numbers of graduate admissions

Adelphi: (516) 877- 3050 ext 4 (really, really nice office)
Brooklyn: (718) 951- 5001 ext 2 (most organized office I have ever dealt with.  They got everything and it was sent the day it was recieved.  They lost nothing and gave me the easiest time)
Hofstra: never had to deal with them b/c everything was literally online.  If someone has a problem with the information you sent, you will get an email.
Lehman: (718) 960-8777 Press 1 and then press 2 (this was the WORST office I have every called.  It took me weeks until I finally figured out this was the number to call.  The speech department even redirected me to the "admissions office" and it turned out to be a non-working number.  People gave me a variety of numbers to call, like (718) 960-8000, (718) 960-8138, (718) 960-8702, (718) 970-8777, but the number I posted is the best one to call!  Try to actually reach a live person, b/c if you leave a message, no one will call you back (I left @ least 20))
LIU Post- (516) 299-2900, first press 5 then 3
LIU Brooklyn- (718) 488-1011, first press 5 then 3
**If you apply to both LIU's you can just send all your letters of reccomendation and transcripts to one school and (apparently) both schools will recieve them.  It was hard to reach both schools, for some reason.
Queens College- (718) 997-5200
St Johns- (718) 990-1601  You will probably reach the same woman each time.  She will ask you when you applied (the exact date) so just make sure you have it, b/c otherwise she'll tell you that you have to wait 2 weeks before it gets in their system.

Relax and good luck hearing back!

Interfolio questions--Letters of recommendation...How many are needed?

HIIIII Everyone :D

I am trying to get a head start on applying to graduate school for speech.  I have heard a lot, first of all, about the number of recommendation letters to give each school.  I was told to give more than the recommended letters, so if CUNY Queens suggests 3 letters, I should give more.  Does this make sense?  I am just asking, because from my perspective, it looks like this would seem as if I am dumb and do not follow directions.

My other question is about interfolio--Has anyone ever used this?  I am planning on applying to many schools, all located in NY---NYU, LIU, Queens, Hunter, Brooklyn, Lehman, Malloy, etc.  I heard some schools use interfolio, while others do not.  Is there any way to find out which school accepts which?

Thanks :D

GRE scores for graduate school?

I am  looking to get into a graduate school for Speech Pathology that is located in New York.  I am not a speech major, but I will shortly be taking pre requisites to apply for grad schools.  I have a 3.6 GPA.  With that in mind, what type of GRE scores are these schools looking for?  I've looked on several Graduate School sites, none of them specify a grade?!?  I obviously understand I need to do as best as I can, but is there some sort of grade they ARE looking for?

demand in NYC metro?

Hello, I'm in my junior year of the SLP program at Idaho State. I moved here from NYC which I miss a lot and think I might want to return to when school is finished. I know that without going to school in NY state, it is almost impossible to get the certification required for child practice in NY state.

So, two questions -
How competitive are the NY state and CUNY grad schools?
If I don't get into grad school in NY state and end up staying in Idaho (or elsewhere) for grad school, what are job opportunities like in New Jersey and Connecticut? Is there a demand? Do those states have difficult red tape and requirements like New York does?

Thanks!

the low-down on NYC grad programs

Everyone,

I am gathering as much information as I possibly can on graduate SLP programs in the NYC area. I am posting what I already know (in hopes that it may help others) and am also posting questions (in hopes that I might get some help of my own).

Adelphi University - Manhattan campus
classes are all day Sundays only in the Soho, Manhattan area
clinical work done at Garden City, Long Island campus
GRE required
can be admitted provisionally without prerequisites, but they must be completed before starting program
a lot of teachers and other adult students at this campus
some of the teachers are able to keep working while doing clinical work after 3 during week and on Saturdays
expensive
question: does anyone know how important GRE scores are and how competitive Adelphi is? 

Hunter College
part of City University of New York, cheap tuition for New York residents
GRE required
can be admitted without prerequisites

St. John's University, Queens
no GRE required
must have most prerequisites before applyihg
expensive
classes scheduled in late afternoons 4:40-6:40 and some 6:50p-8:50pm
question: how hard is it go get in? does the program have a lot of adult students who are working?

Queens College
part of City University of New York, cheap tuition for New York residents
GRE required
full-time, day students only
does not recommend working while taking program
very competitive
requires completion of all prerequisites prior to admission

Lehman College
part of City University of New York, cheap tuition for New York residents
no GRE required
requires completion of 27 prerequisites
afternoon/evening classes
good choice if you live in NYC and have SLP undergraduate major, but don't have good GRE scores


Long Island University, Brooklyn campus
Brooklyn campus does not require GRE, CW Post campus in Long Island does
class schedules are all over the place - day, afteroon, early evening
Brooklyn campus has a BS/MS program
expensive